Just a quickie. Basically no. I’m sorry, I know the guy was a bit of an arse (and yes..I’m intentionally underestimating his arseyness here…it’s intentional) but I don’t think he should be killed….punished certainly…for the rest of his life..but not killed. Why the hell does everyone think its fine. Since when did it become the responsibility of agnostics who wish for apocalypse as soon as possible so that the world has a chance to carry on living without us imbecilic humans clogging up the place to defend the ‘thou shalt not kill’ thing. Seriously…the guy’s evil…but if he’s executed then it really is just lowering our moral standings and sending out the message that killing people is fine. This is the kind of attitude we really should be stopping. I want my apocalypse clean and ecological…not just everybody murdering everybody else one by one because of hate prejudice and everyone being twats. Its not because I think it’ll make a martyr of him, although that does count for something. Justice is a weird thing…a very weird thing. I don’t know how it should work..but I do know that killing him ain’t gonna bring anyone back. It may make the families of genocide victims feel better to know that their own lust for violent death has been sated…but seriously..there’s more to it than that. And don’t you dare give me that ‘but it’s under their legal jurisdiction’ bullshit. By that methodology Saddam should still be in power because Iraqi jurisdiction made him King or Fuhrer or whatever he actually was. We’ve got involved..so we surely should help them sort this shit out.
Damn I’m pissed off this morning. Sorry for the moodiness…for a much more balanced discussion check out Subliminal K’s thoughts on the matter. Just being emotive and slightly out of touch with the real world.
I’m not sure about the meaning of piss off, but I find your post interesting and also in touch with the world. Justice can be unfair for someone, but it is still justice. It is a codex , but not a simple codex since it is based on moral principles … but not simple moral principles, since are our own western moral principles. This can be a trouble when you try to apply our justice to other peoples,I know, but this is the only moral available for us. I can’t understand Americans ( I mean the governement, not people, of course), because they have very beautyful principles in their constitution, but they think (by their acting) that these can be changed to fight the terrorism ( consider that terrorism is terrorism because it is against those principles)… this is nonsense. And more, capital punishment is not supported by those principles. ( sorry for this long speech, obviously you can delete it … In Italian I could say it better and briefly but I ‘m afraid you don’t understand me :D )
Your words strike the heart of what I’m trying to say. Thanks for what you say as I think you are on the money.
Piss is urine…but pissed off in this context just means annoyed..or wound up. When I’m moody I swear in my writing. I was going to add a few insights on swearing on your blog as soon as I get the chance, but I’m a bit busy right now.
Anyway, I would never delete something said from the heart…and I tend to go over the top a bit myself. why say something in five words when you can say it in five thousand is, I believe, the saying (though I may have made it up).
Incidentally, Your English above is effectively perfect. Don’t do yourself down. You spelt beautiful wrong and people would rarely use the word Codex (though it does exist) but apart from that I can’t really fault it unless I was being hyper strict grammarian about it. Ok, maybe a couple of minor errors, but more than up to blogosphere standards…in fact quite above the average standard for English on the internet.
I believe you taught me the word is ‘Brava’!
Keep it up
:-) (speecless)
ahahah! speechless !!!
hehe. So I may slightly exaggerate when I say perfection. But the meaning was incredibly clear and it read like something written by someone fluent who was lazy, rather than someone who was learning. brava either way.
Killing Saddam is likely to turn him into a deposed hero of the Sunnis, re-validating a conviction that the Americans dispense “justice” from a gun barrel. Saddam is too plugged into Iraq geographically and religiously–he’s been careful to be seen clutching a Koran since the trial started.
I believe he deserves death. I also believe it will come to him without outside intervention. Why give a man who made his image on spectacle a final spectacle?
Jail him securely, let him rot, let the world turn. One day we’ll hear some BBC announcer say “Saddam Hussein, deposed dictator of Iraq, died today in prison”.
And hopefully we and all Iraqis will think “Oh yeah–him.”
Nail on the head there Metro, well done.
I think you said what I was trying to say..or at least providing one of the less emotional reasons why it should be done. Let him rot and be forgotten, that’ll make his last remaining days much more unpleasant and fitting.
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i think that saddam should be hung. yes he was an arse.. but to consider, that he killed people so creully and immorally. I think that hanging isnt enough. He needs to suffer for what he has done. before hanging him they should shove a flaming peice of wood up his arse. then hang him. or they should do what he has dont to many. drag him on asfault dip him in acid then hang him. (and/or shove a flaming piece of wood up his arse)
So….arse…yes. But I don’t really condone killing. THe guy could rot in prison. Well…not any more…the whole thing is an elephant (irrelevant). He’s dead now. He was quite happy to go in the end as he is now ‘joining the martyrs’.
Cruel torture and execution and killing and slaughter and genocide are all bad…but it doesn’t make it alright to do those things ‘because someone else started it’ or whatever.
THat’s all I’m saying. I’m not saying he was a nice guy. Just that I don’t think killing him solves anything or really makes a difference. Apart from turning him martyr…which ain’t necessarily a good thing.
Ya get me?
http://archiearchive.wordpress.com/2006/12/30/saddam-gw-bush-iraq-and-john-donne/
http://dissidentnews.wordpress.com/2006/12/30/robert-fisksaddam-a-dictator-created-then-destroyed-by-america/
Some people say things much better than me. THis article is (unsurprisingly) getting a few extra hits even though its a very old one. Still. You’re better off reading the above than listening to a moose like me.